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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Dec 3, 2010 11:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 8-26-71 - Empty Pages

no offense, but he is soooo out of tune on Empty Pages it is virtually unlistenable. might as well be Phil singing it. good song though.

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Poster: amosearle Date: Dec 3, 2010 12:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 8-26-71 - Empty Pages

I hear it as a bit of "Pig Pen's demise". Sad, but true. I have a tolerance for it because of the good song and how seldom I listen to it. It does take some balls to plow on through a bad note once you have committed yourself.

Plenty of '71 to enjoy on this show other than that song, too. I like the H2H ( but I haven't met one I didn't).

I am so burned out on the NFA, GDTRFB, NFA etc. closers that weren't good that I tend to avoid them all. I am sure this one holds up but I'm not going there today.

This post was modified by amosearle on 2010-12-03 20:03:31

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Dec 3, 2010 12:10pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 8-26-71 - Empty Pages

decent '71 Other One on that show too. good choice of a show from a year I do not often listen to. I dont think I ever listened to the GD perform Empty Pages.

yeah, being one of his last shows it sounds it. i can see why it would have special appeal. sure does bring a touch of true sadness to the tune.

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Poster: rastamon Date: Dec 3, 2010 1:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 8-26-71 - Empty Pages

how about Donna's last PITB?

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Dec 3, 2010 1:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 8-26-71 - Empty Pages

eeeek!! i dont recall liking her FIRST one!! lol

:)

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Dec 3, 2010 3:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 8-26-71 - Empty Pages

Maybe so Don, but let's face the facts; with the exception of a very brief period in 1970, the Grateful Dead have always been extremely weak vocally. The band made their bones on jamming and instrumental play, not on their singing! I find Jerry's vocals after about 1981 to be just as unlistenable :)

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Poster: BataviaSparky Date: Dec 3, 2010 4:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 71 Empty Pages +Hi_JK- WHO DO YOU WISH WOULD IT HAVE BEEN???????????????????

Cliff Hucker, you sadden me. Jerry's vocals aren't consistent throughout his carreer, but to say that anything after 81 in umlistenable is to really paint oneseltf into a corner. For my nickel, I feel the emotion pouring out so much heavier when he wants to on those certain lyrics, thanks to his aged, gravelly voice.
I also believe that most music is IN THE MOMENT, and truth be told, I rarely pay attention to the singing while the band surges towards Slipknot!, The breadowns in Cassidy, Music Never Stopped, Scarlet to Rider transistion, likewise Eyes-Estimated or vice versa.
My point is that after the only pure vocalist (Pig) the band ever employed retired, the singing rapidly shrunk to maybe 5-10% of what the band did.
All in my humble opinion as always.
And as for the sadness, it's not for, to, about, or in any way about Cliff. On the contrary, it's sadness for the band. Just try to imagine what the sound would have been like with Paul Rogers, or Johnny Lang, or someone you might like....


************************LIGHT BULB**************************

WHO COULD YOU SEE STEPPING IN RIGHT AWAY FOR MR.PEN,

AND EHY?

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Poster: jerrys beard Date: Dec 7, 2010 10:29am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 8-26-71 - Empty Pages

Feel the need to second Cliff's emotion. His singing is literally painful. Time, drugs and cigarettes took their toll on Jer and I have to force myself to listen through the vocal sections.